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	<title>Comments on: LBS in B2B: taking Events to the next level?</title>
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		<title>By: Taunya Metty</title>
		<link>http://autom.x.iabc.com/2010/10/08/lbs-in-b2b-taking-events-to-the-next-level/#comment-1372</link>
		<dc:creator>Taunya Metty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 17:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Christina</title>
		<link>http://autom.x.iabc.com/2010/10/08/lbs-in-b2b-taking-events-to-the-next-level/#comment-1224</link>
		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm a proponent of LBS!  I think that there are some fantastic things that these tools can be used for and I love that you touched on the use of it on the conference front.  It is something that is under-used as is the # for driving traffic and awareness to your events/booths.  I however I would like to see the providers of these services be more pro-active about cleaning up the listings that they are gathering from users.  Most businesses probably don't realize that there could be wrong information about their business listing online because of these sites.  When you deal with user-provided content you deal with general miss-information in terms of the spelling of a business name...their address and other information about a business.  These things may not seem like a big deal to the user who just wants to "check-in" but to a business it could be a huge head-ache.  Nope..I don't work with data...whatever do you mean...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a proponent of LBS!  I think that there are some fantastic things that these tools can be used for and I love that you touched on the use of it on the conference front.  It is something that is under-used as is the # for driving traffic and awareness to your events/booths.  I however I would like to see the providers of these services be more pro-active about cleaning up the listings that they are gathering from users.  Most businesses probably don&#8217;t realize that there could be wrong information about their business listing online because of these sites.  When you deal with user-provided content you deal with general miss-information in terms of the spelling of a business name&#8230;their address and other information about a business.  These things may not seem like a big deal to the user who just wants to &#8220;check-in&#8221; but to a business it could be a huge head-ache.  Nope..I don&#8217;t work with data&#8230;whatever do you mean&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hessie Jones</title>
		<link>http://autom.x.iabc.com/2010/10/08/lbs-in-b2b-taking-events-to-the-next-level/#comment-1083</link>
		<dc:creator>Hessie Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Autom. I guess it boils down to the objectives from a B2B perspective. For B2C, it's about building awareness, drive to retail/conversion, amplifying events etc. as you've mentioned. Events definitely have a place for B2B especially as it deals with twitter and hashtagging as you've noted above. But unless there is immediate impacts ROI-wise, it's going to be hard to nail down the model for B2B.

That being said, I definitely see it as a way to improve performance for  sales or ops that function outside of the office. My former client, UPS, is always looking for ways to motivate drivers to increase their volume pick-ups per day, and hence (Average Revenue per Employee). If you create a contest using LBS coupled with incentive, that would be a great way to increase productivity. Just one example, but I suspect this is an area that could benefit the most from LBS within this sector.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Autom. I guess it boils down to the objectives from a B2B perspective. For B2C, it&#8217;s about building awareness, drive to retail/conversion, amplifying events etc. as you&#8217;ve mentioned. Events definitely have a place for B2B especially as it deals with twitter and hashtagging as you&#8217;ve noted above. But unless there is immediate impacts ROI-wise, it&#8217;s going to be hard to nail down the model for B2B.</p>
<p>That being said, I definitely see it as a way to improve performance for  sales or ops that function outside of the office. My former client, UPS, is always looking for ways to motivate drivers to increase their volume pick-ups per day, and hence (Average Revenue per Employee). If you create a contest using LBS coupled with incentive, that would be a great way to increase productivity. Just one example, but I suspect this is an area that could benefit the most from LBS within this sector.</p>
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		<title>By: autom</title>
		<link>http://autom.x.iabc.com/2010/10/08/lbs-in-b2b-taking-events-to-the-next-level/#comment-1063</link>
		<dc:creator>autom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 16:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deni - totally get the seeming 'noise' and clutter one sees from LBS-based posts. but i also wonder if ppl are aware (but have been subconsciously conditioned to ignore) that they have the option to share checkins and content *within* the network of a given LBS without having to 'pollute' the timelines of other social channels. the over-sharing characteristic of posts from LBS apps does appear to amplify the already seemingly exhibitionist trait of social networks..but what if developers enhanced these apps further so that they have specific uses for b2b? just throwing it out there..how and in what direction  technology evolves to cater to different types of users has always been an area of interest and fascination for me..thanks for sharing your thoughts on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deni - totally get the seeming &#8216;noise&#8217; and clutter one sees from LBS-based posts. but i also wonder if ppl are aware (but have been subconsciously conditioned to ignore) that they have the option to share checkins and content *within* the network of a given LBS without having to &#8216;pollute&#8217; the timelines of other social channels. the over-sharing characteristic of posts from LBS apps does appear to amplify the already seemingly exhibitionist trait of social networks..but what if developers enhanced these apps further so that they have specific uses for b2b? just throwing it out there..how and in what direction  technology evolves to cater to different types of users has always been an area of interest and fascination for me..thanks for sharing your thoughts on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Deni Kasrel</title>
		<link>http://autom.x.iabc.com/2010/10/08/lbs-in-b2b-taking-events-to-the-next-level/#comment-1053</link>
		<dc:creator>Deni Kasrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2010 17:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Autom,

As you likely know, based on some of my tweets about this subject, I am of mixed mind about LBS. Yes, it can drive business and provides brand recognition and customer engagement, but many people (myself included) find the messages are often little more than social media/web 2.0 clutter (that is, to the person receiving the “I am here!” broadcast messages). 

That said, you offer a number of good ideas. Indeed, LBS can work in the B2B space and using prizes and game-type hooks to increase engagement can add special interest and excitement.

Then, too, my devil’s advocate side says one drawback is that you are only dealing with a small subset of a given business community -- those individuals who are LBS-enabled. A fair number of folks don’t want to deal with LBS and may be put off by having to download and use such an application in order to participate in a promotion, event or other business purpose.

Deni
@dkasrel in the twitosphere

Thanks for the thought provoking post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Autom,</p>
<p>As you likely know, based on some of my tweets about this subject, I am of mixed mind about LBS. Yes, it can drive business and provides brand recognition and customer engagement, but many people (myself included) find the messages are often little more than social media/web 2.0 clutter (that is, to the person receiving the “I am here!” broadcast messages). </p>
<p>That said, you offer a number of good ideas. Indeed, LBS can work in the B2B space and using prizes and game-type hooks to increase engagement can add special interest and excitement.</p>
<p>Then, too, my devil’s advocate side says one drawback is that you are only dealing with a small subset of a given business community &#8212; those individuals who are LBS-enabled. A fair number of folks don’t want to deal with LBS and may be put off by having to download and use such an application in order to participate in a promotion, event or other business purpose.</p>
<p>Deni<br />
@dkasrel in the twitosphere</p>
<p>Thanks for the thought provoking post.</p>
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		<title>By: Autom Tagsa</title>
		<link>http://autom.x.iabc.com/2010/10/08/lbs-in-b2b-taking-events-to-the-next-level/#comment-1035</link>
		<dc:creator>Autom Tagsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2010 20:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://autom.x.iabc.com/2010/10/08/lbs-in-b2b-taking-events-to-the-next-level/#comment-1035</guid>
		<description>Angela - excellent examples on slides 52 to 55 and speaks exactly to my last bullet. although to your point, mastering  hashtags, nay even the live-tweeting in events, is not a popular exercise—but perhaps it's not meant to be(?) the relationship-driven nature of B2B is precisely why i thought further development and application of this type of tech would be worthwhile. thanks for sharing your feedback.

Ryan - now now, Kent wouldn't "punch you on the face" (i would) haha kidding (i'd force tapas on you instead) and of course the current forms of incentive are derived from what's already been successfully done for B2C..i was just tweeting with &lt;a href="http://twitter.com/spurdave" rel="nofollow"&gt;Dave&lt;/a&gt; yesterday of the virtually untapped market for LBS companies to start developing for B2B, that is, if the apps were indeed meant to be a tool for enterprise and client relations. thanks for stopping and sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angela - excellent examples on slides 52 to 55 and speaks exactly to my last bullet. although to your point, mastering  hashtags, nay even the live-tweeting in events, is not a popular exercise—but perhaps it&#8217;s not meant to be(?) the relationship-driven nature of B2B is precisely why i thought further development and application of this type of tech would be worthwhile. thanks for sharing your feedback.</p>
<p>Ryan - now now, Kent wouldn&#8217;t &#8220;punch you on the face&#8221; (i would) haha kidding (i&#8217;d force tapas on you instead) and of course the current forms of incentive are derived from what&#8217;s already been successfully done for B2C..i was just tweeting with <a href="http://twitter.com/spurdave" rel="nofollow">Dave</a> yesterday of the virtually untapped market for LBS companies to start developing for B2B, that is, if the apps were indeed meant to be a tool for enterprise and client relations. thanks for stopping and sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Pannell</title>
		<link>http://autom.x.iabc.com/2010/10/08/lbs-in-b2b-taking-events-to-the-next-level/#comment-1022</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Pannell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2010 00:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a tough one for sure... For me, LBS must have a purpose; I don't have time/care enough to use the consumer products currently on offer (Gowalla or 4Square) because I just don't see the point...or benefit to me. Such is the case with a lot of executives I think; everything is judged on ROI. The LBS functionality that does excite me is along the lines of what the Toodledo GTD app is offering: location-based task prioritization. Like, if I'm driving past Home Depot, this thing will actually pipe up and tell me that I've got stuff to pick up as I'm driving by! Now for a busy guy like me, THAT'S value. It'll also prioritize tasks based on location and route. But again, this remains B2C. 

For B2B I think it's even tougher. What do I want LBS to do for my businesses? Well if you're not talking strictly marketing, I suppose what I want is it to streamline a process which is currently labor-intensive. For example, if I ran a business that deployed service techs at client sites, then it'd be helpful to have a LBS that would check them in and out at the sites, and tie into our time/billing system to assist in accurate client time-based invoicing. I might be interested in a LBS that checked staff in and out of our offices when they arrived (though none of MY staff would consent to use it, and Kent would probably punch me in the face for even asking...). 

Ultimately it's going to take a lot more than some swag to get me to go through the rigamarole of dragging out my iPhone and going through some process to tell everyone where I am (and we are talking about a guy who's not crazy about people knowing where he is all the time).  I will say that your first point above - checking into business events - is intriguing and appealing to me, especially if they're bigger and draw a large crowd. I'd love to know who actually showed up at our Polo for Heart event or TIFF premiere...

As with all new offerings, time will tell. I think for B2B to adopt and then drive, it has to be less gimmick and more substance than it is now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a tough one for sure&#8230; For me, LBS must have a purpose; I don&#8217;t have time/care enough to use the consumer products currently on offer (Gowalla or 4Square) because I just don&#8217;t see the point&#8230;or benefit to me. Such is the case with a lot of executives I think; everything is judged on ROI. The LBS functionality that does excite me is along the lines of what the Toodledo GTD app is offering: location-based task prioritization. Like, if I&#8217;m driving past Home Depot, this thing will actually pipe up and tell me that I&#8217;ve got stuff to pick up as I&#8217;m driving by! Now for a busy guy like me, THAT&#8217;S value. It&#8217;ll also prioritize tasks based on location and route. But again, this remains B2C. </p>
<p>For B2B I think it&#8217;s even tougher. What do I want LBS to do for my businesses? Well if you&#8217;re not talking strictly marketing, I suppose what I want is it to streamline a process which is currently labor-intensive. For example, if I ran a business that deployed service techs at client sites, then it&#8217;d be helpful to have a LBS that would check them in and out at the sites, and tie into our time/billing system to assist in accurate client time-based invoicing. I might be interested in a LBS that checked staff in and out of our offices when they arrived (though none of MY staff would consent to use it, and Kent would probably punch me in the face for even asking&#8230;). </p>
<p>Ultimately it&#8217;s going to take a lot more than some swag to get me to go through the rigamarole of dragging out my iPhone and going through some process to tell everyone where I am (and we are talking about a guy who&#8217;s not crazy about people knowing where he is all the time).  I will say that your first point above - checking into business events - is intriguing and appealing to me, especially if they&#8217;re bigger and draw a large crowd. I&#8217;d love to know who actually showed up at our Polo for Heart event or TIFF premiere&#8230;</p>
<p>As with all new offerings, time will tell. I think for B2B to adopt and then drive, it has to be less gimmick and more substance than it is now.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela Dunn (blogbrevity)</title>
		<link>http://autom.x.iabc.com/2010/10/08/lbs-in-b2b-taking-events-to-the-next-level/#comment-1021</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela Dunn (blogbrevity)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2010 00:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the link! Top Digital Trends in Healthcare &#38; Pharma Marketing - http://www.payformance.com/top-digital-trends-in-healthcare-and-pharma/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the link! Top Digital Trends in Healthcare &amp; Pharma Marketing - <a href="http://www.payformance.com/top-digital-trends-in-healthcare-and-pharma/" rel="nofollow">http://www.payformance.com/top-digital-trends-in-healthcare-and-pharma/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Angela Dunn (blogbrevity)</title>
		<link>http://autom.x.iabc.com/2010/10/08/lbs-in-b2b-taking-events-to-the-next-level/#comment-1020</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela Dunn (blogbrevity)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 23:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting ideas, Autom!  Great points about conference uses for LBS. I think conferences still have yet to master promoting a #hashtag. :)  The potential is certainly great. Also, see this presentation on "Digital Trends in Healthcare &#38; Pharma Marketing." Slides 52 to 55 demonstrate the possibilities for a smarter conference with RFID.  B2B is even more relationship driven than B2C.  The opportunity to provide a better experience by implementing novel ideas with these technologies will set those that lead apart. 

Thank you.
Angela Dunn
aka @blogbrevity</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting ideas, Autom!  Great points about conference uses for LBS. I think conferences still have yet to master promoting a #hashtag. <img src='http://autom.x.iabc.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  The potential is certainly great. Also, see this presentation on &#8220;Digital Trends in Healthcare &amp; Pharma Marketing.&#8221; Slides 52 to 55 demonstrate the possibilities for a smarter conference with RFID.  B2B is even more relationship driven than B2C.  The opportunity to provide a better experience by implementing novel ideas with these technologies will set those that lead apart. </p>
<p>Thank you.<br />
Angela Dunn<br />
aka @blogbrevity</p>
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